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#21 Rom

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:52 AM

Having JG make a statement that confirms this would greatly influence a belief that he is calling the shots. But I do now the power of perception and how deceiving it can be.


Jason doesn't care what anyone outside that building and football team think about what he is doing, who is calling what shots, or anything else. By that I mean he doesn't care AT ALL, Zero, he devotes zero energy to thinking about that. He is the type of person who is of a one track mind he doesn't allow anything to interfere and in fact he considers the media and fans puzzling over what is going on, over what he thinks and how he acts, to be a competitive advantage. In fact, if you look at it logically there is nothing Garrett would want other teams and people to think more than that he has lost his power and that Jerry is running the show and that Jerry is an idiot, that Is a competitive advantage because people will take him and us lightly because of it, and that's fine, that's a good thing.

Why would he make a statement that could only serve to give him a disadvantage, and has no potential positive outcome at all? If the team is taking their queues on a coaches ability and leadership from his pressers with a bunch of mediots with microphones in their hands that team is Worthless anyways, so if the team knows who is in charge then there is no need for JG to tell anyone else or clarify anything for anyone else, why the hell would he?

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:09 AM

It refers back to the recent interview that Mickey had with JJ about these issues.


Sorry didn't mean to sound disrespectful - thanks for the break down. I see what you are getting at...D

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:00 AM

The only reality I need to know is JJ is sticking with JG for now. I think it's a bad idea but he will have a chance to prove me wrong. We shall see.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:41 PM

Perception: 1 playoff win in 17 years. Everyone blows.

Reality: 1 playoff win in 17 years. Everyone sucks.

Not sure what Spag is talking about. Sounds like the perfect meeting of perception and reality to me.

Just more noise.

Moving on.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:11 PM

Jason doesn't care what anyone outside that building and football team think about what he is doing, who is calling what shots, or anything else. By that I mean he doesn't care AT ALL, Zero, he devotes zero energy to thinking about that. He is the type of person who is of a one track mind he doesn't allow anything to interfere and in fact he considers the media and fans puzzling over what is going on, over what he thinks and how he acts, to be a competitive advantage. In fact, if you look at it logically there is nothing Garrett would want other teams and people to think more than that he has lost his power and that Jerry is running the show and that Jerry is an idiot, that Is a competitive advantage because people will take him and us lightly because of it, and that's fine, that's a good thing.

Why would he make a statement that could only serve to give him a disadvantage, and has no potential positive outcome at all? If the team is taking their queues on a coaches ability and leadership from his pressers with a bunch of mediots with microphones in their hands that team is Worthless anyways, so if the team knows who is in charge then there is no need for JG to tell anyone else or clarify anything for anyone else, why the hell would he?


This would be your Perception, the Reality is you don't know Jason and what he thinks. That's the beauty of the Jones spun rhetoric.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:17 PM

IRVING, Texas – Perception is a cruel disease, a cancerous assumption that takes on a life of its own.
As the former longtime director of operations Bruce Mays used to preach to me for all those many years here at The Ranch, once a perception is out there, well, that might as well be reality. Hard to prove otherwise.
Sort of like the way it’s frustratingly difficult to put something back in the box once you’ve taken it out.
And on Jan. 3 of this year, just four days after the Dallas Cowboys’ 2012 season came to a crashing and crushing halt with a 28-18 loss to the Washington Redskins in the Game 16, winner-takes-the East contest at FedEx Field, relegating these Cowboys to yet another disappointing 8-8 finish, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones opened the barn door.
Understandably frustrated after two consecutive 8-8 seasons, meaning his club would miss the playoffs a third straight year, he uttered this now infamous statement on his weekly radio segment:
“I can assure our fans this, that it's going to be very uncomfortable from my standpoint. It's going to be very uncomfortable for the next few weeks and months at Valley Ranch.”
If that wasn’t enough, he went on to say:
“I can tell you change is necessary at 8-8 – we're going to have to have changes.”
The horses were running wild.
That put a noose around everyone’s neck out here, including that of his head coach, Jason Garrett, the running-rampant perception being the whole lot of them were going to get fired, including Garrett. Mike Holmgren was on his way to becoming the Cowboys next head coach. Then Sean Payton. Then Jon Gruden. Name me an out-of-work head coach, and he was on his way to The Ranch.
So now when Jones says in his recent interview for the Dallas Cowboys Year End Special, that airs this weekend in many of the Dallas Cowboys Television Network markets, “I saw things about our head coach that really give me a lot of promise about not only 2013 but for years to come. Now I’m excited about Jason Garrett, and so I think that we can take those kinds of positives, and Jason Garrett is certainly one of them from my evaluation … ,” few believe him.
Same with the staff shakeup. No matter if Garrett thought change was needed at defensive coordinator, automatically it was Jerry firing Rob Ryan, and it was Jerry certainly shaking up the offensive staff as if enthusiastically making a dirty martini.
So when he says of trying to take the positives from last year and improve on that “it did entail quite a position staff change, and rest assured that Jason Garrett, our head coach, “made those changes,” of course he likely gets a collective, yeah, yeah, sure response.
Perception, remember.
Now then, the Cowboys hire Monte Kiffin as defensive coordinator, and he entices Rod Marinelli to join him as defensive line coach. They bring in Rich Bisaccia as the special teams coach, and will take their time filling coaching positions at running back, tight end and wide receiver.
Immediately those are Jerry hires.
But did anyone take the time to consider Garrett had a working relationship with all three of those guys at Tampa Bay in 2004? Remember, his contract with the Giants expired that offseason, and when he wasn’t re-signed as the backup the Bucs signed him. Garrett spent the entire spring, summer and training camp with the Bucs before he was released.
Yet he returned for three weeks that season after Chris Simms was injured before getting released again and then hooking up with former Cowboys assistant Jim Bates at Miami after Jay Fiedler went down. Kiffin and Marinelli were at Tampa Bay that 2004 season. So, too, Bisaccia, who likely also was given a good recommendation by someone close to Garrett, Norv Turner, after his past two seasons in San Diego with the Cowboys former offensive coordinator.
As for Garrett’s position on the defensive side, during the TV special he said concerning being around Kiffin for that season: “I learned so much from him, and to have an opportunity to have him on staff here is a great opportunity for the Cowboys. …
“(Marinelli) and Monte were really joined at the hip in their time at Tampa. … When you pair Monte Kiffin and Rod Marinelli up on the defensive side of the ball you have an impressive duo.”
And as Jones said in the interview that isn’t scheduled to show locally until next Saturday on CBS-11, “(Jason) basically sat down and said, ‘Here’s the kind of coach I want.’ He did the evaluation, he basically said, ‘Jerry, here’s who I want to get.’”
Jones also pointed out changing assistant coaches before their contracts expire becomes “an expensive proposition,” but that the cost of honoring the final years on those contracts became “trite” in terms of “making some of the changes that our head coach wanted regarding his staff.”
Remember, Jones didn’t build a billion-dollar stadium by throwing money around foolishly on change for change sake.
Funny thing about the perception of these staff changes seems to be this: When Jones uttered his “uncomfortable” proclamation, the general reaction seemed to be, yeah, that’s right, we’re tired of being 8-8. But when the Cowboys did shake things up, it was like, what the heck is Jerry doing? Can you have it both ways?
And then let’s get to the elephant in the room: Who will be calling plays? Jones certainly hinted at the Senior Bowl there could be a change; that Garrett would become more of a walk-around head coach instead of the head coach/offensive coordinator/play-caller, exactly what many of the fans had been calling for most of this past year. Now, Jones never dismissed the notion more so than he announced an impending change, which he didn’t.
But then when leaving open the possibility, the immediate reaction was, Jerry is undermining his head coach. Again, which way you want it?
And to that, when asked about a potential change in play-caller on a coinciding interview now posted on DallasCowboys.com, Jones said, “Let me say this, I must say this, it has never been an issue with Jason Garrett – never. That was his GM, that was me that by having him come in here as play-caller and doing that for the very first time, being the play-caller for the last six years it was me that said I prefer it that the head coach is doing the offensive play-calling, to the extent that (if) he – he – decides he would like to do it another way is not a takeaway.
“It will be in his judgment as head coach of the football team the best way to win a game. It doesn’t have anything to do with a lack of confidence in our head coach’s part to how well he can call the plays.”
And it shouldn’t if you take time to look at the numbers over the six years Garrett has served as either offensive coordinator or head coach, calling the plays from both positions. Because over the last six seasons the Cowboys offense ranks fourth in the NFL in total yards. Only the Saints, Patriots and Texans rank higher.
When it comes to total points over the past six seasons, the Cowboys’ 24.1-point average ranks seventh, a tenth of a point from sixth and one point from fifth. Passing offense? Fourth behind the Saints, Patriots and Packers. Now the disconnect is rushing offense, where the Cowboys rank 22nd, 108.6 a game, a number that plummeted further after this season’s franchise low 79 yards a game.
As Garrett says, “You look at that stuff and say, ‘Boy a lot of that stuff is good and we want to build on that stuff and continue down that track with our football team.’ But having said that, this is an opportunity to add some people, to add some influence to our offense to hopefully, if there is a tweak for us that can help us get a little bit better and help us break through as a football team.”
All of which brings us back to Jerry Jones when I sarcastically asked after hearing all this, “So you’re not cutting the legs out from underneath (Garrett)?”
As you can see watching the video, he didn’t exactly smile before going on to say, “You know, I’m defensive and I guess I am sitting here defensive about that, but it’s just not in any way the way that it is. Jason is putting together, as he should be, a staff and philosophy on every phase of the team and allocating his time relative to allocating the time of his staff in helping us win a football game now and in the future – now being ’13 and in the future.
“I’m excited, boy we got a good man in Jason Garrett putting this together for us … so one of the things I’m happiest about is who we got putting this together in Jason Garrett.”
Makes you wonder now, doesn’t it? That quite possibly there truly is a disconnect between perception and reality.

Mickey Spagnola is the equivalent to the Iraqi Press secretary during the US invasion years ago. "Our armies will crush these invaders. All is well."

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:48 PM

Who cares Jason Garrett still sucks. Regardless of who is doing the shot calling it will ultimately suck anyways. The cowboys are irrelevant no one cares and after failing so many times and blowing smoke up the media and fans butts why should anyone take anything serious about this team.

If no one cares, why does an 8-8 dumpster fire consistently garner a headline at espn.com? No one likes Jerry's structure, especially since it lends itself to negative speculation almost 24/7, but screaming at the clouds won't make them go away. The silver lining--their is a smaller faction that perceives some changes in the culture.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

If no one cares, why does an 8-8 dumpster fire consistently garner a headline at espn.com? No one likes Jerry's structure, especially since it lends itself to negative speculation almost 24/7, but screaming at the clouds won't make them go away. The silver lining--their is a smaller faction that perceives some changes in the culture.

Screaming at the clouds does though bring the issue to the forefront.5 years ago and even more recently fans like me were shot down or labled as haters for calling Jerry out.

There has been major progress in addressing the issue. Has there been any change...hard to say but at least it is being discussed with Jerry even having to confront the issues in public this past year.


   

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

Perception: 1 playoff win in 17 years. Everyone blows.

Reality: 1 playoff win in 17 years. Everyone sucks.

Not sure what Spag is talking about. Sounds like the perfect meeting of perception and reality to me.

Just more noise.

Moving on.

I disagree that EVERYONE sucks, but I DO agree that it's just more noise. It's amazing how frantic the media is for something or ANYTHING to feed the voracious appetite of the huddled masses.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

Screaming at the clouds does though bring the issue to the forefront.5 years ago and even more recently fans like me were shot down or labled as haters for calling Jerry out.

There has been major progress in addressing the issue. Has there been any change...hard to say but at least it is being discussed with Jerry even having to confront the issues in public this past year.

Maybe you're right. I just feel beat down by the man at times...

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:56 PM

Maybe you're right. I just feel beat down by the man at times...

We all do.LOL

I sleep better at night feeling I've tried to make a difference instead of accepting status quo.

I'm a rebel at heart anyway. Is it a reflection of my generation and the way I was raised. Fighting for what you believe in and confronting staus quo is not for everyone. It's why we have leaders and followers. Most people or fans accept whatever is thrown down the pike feeling they have no control but their voice and action collectively can often make an impact.

   

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

Who cares Jason Garrett still sucks. Regardless of who is doing the shot calling it will ultimately suck anyways. The cowboys are irrelevant no one cares and after failing so many times and blowing smoke up the media and fans butts why should anyone take anything serious about this team.


This too will fail.... garrett just has no business being a HC. SO in the end Jone$ is directly contradicting himself because afterall isn't he the one that said he gets the final say???? NOW it's garrett who is getting it? All-in-all it's more spin and another home grown article from within to try to keep the fans calm even though you already know the truth. Jone$ IS DOING THIS..... garrett is a puppet and he will fail, his system has been failing for the last 5 years.... it isn't going to suddenly turn around... people [other teams] know his joke system and how to beat it... it didn't take long.. one year and he's shown no ability to counter it.. basically in a nutshell garrett's system is based on trying to run a 90's style Cowboys offense with overachievers....

Easy, predictable and will fail on levels that go beyond understanding until we get to watch the horror show next season.

No matter WHO the players are this team is coached so poorly that it's very clear that garrett has to be surrounded with other form HC's because he's lost.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:34 AM

This would be your Perception, the Reality is you don't know Jason and what he thinks. That's the beauty of the Jones spun rhetoric.


When I was talking about giving away as little information to media and fans that is not my perception based on some assumption, those are his own words. He considers anyone outside the Cowboys organisation to be potentially damaging to his team's chances via giving them any more information than absolutely necessary. He has said this in his more candid one on one interviews many times. He specifically said something to this exact effect "Whenever I say something in an interview or in the public where it can be viewed by everyone before I answer any question I evaluate what negative effect my answer could have on the Dallas Football Cowboys." He specifically says Dallas Football Cowboys in the interview I am talking about roughly quoting him which was kinda funny.

Anyways, the point is he intentionally gives away as little possible information to the public as he can get away with and still be adhering to league policy. I'm glad he does it that way and I understand the logic behind it.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:39 AM

When I was talking about giving away as little information to media and fans that is not my perception based on some assumption, those are his own words. He considers anyone outside the Cowboys organisation to be potentially damaging to his team's chances via giving them any more information than absolutely necessary. He has said this in his more candid one on one interviews many times. He specifically said something to this exact effect "Whenever I say something in an interview or in the public where it can be viewed by everyone before I answer any question I evaluate what negative effect my answer could have on the Dallas Football Cowboys." He specifically says Dallas Football Cowboys in the interview I am talking about roughly quoting him which was kinda funny.

Anyways, the point is he intentionally gives away as little possible information to the public as he can get away with and still be adhering to league policy. I'm glad he does it that way and I understand the logic behind it.


I understand the logic too but why can the Head Ball Coach not come out and say I picked the coaches, players, etc....

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:15 AM

LOL it was Jerry who said the next few months are going to be very uncomfortable at the ranch. They're certainly uncomfortable and it wasn't Jason who said it, and it certainly wasn't Jason who stripped himself of the play calling duties and fired his own brother!!! lol How many owner/gms around the league have to "clear up" who is calling the shots on a yearly basis? This is like Wade deciding to make the offense Romo friendly or Parcells deciding to sign T.O. or Campo deciding to trade for Joey Galloway??? LOL hilarious.

This guy is ridiculous and Garretts legs have officially been cut which is 6 years too late and just a domino effect of another ridiculous decision anyway. So really a moot point way after the fact. All from the brilliant mind of one clueless GM. A true snake oil salesman whose puppet strings extend all the way to the beat writers..what a shocker! Just more damage control and a transparent spin on the decisions being made.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:22 AM

Mickey Spagnola is the equivalent to the Iraqi Press secretary during the US invasion years ago. "Our armies will crush these invaders. All is well."


If Spagnola had been a German in the 1930s & 1940s, he would have been a prominent part of the propaganda effort.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:30 PM

Mickey wrote a good article over what we perceive is happening at Valley Ranch and what actually is. Now I'm not saying that this article is fact and there is no deception being played by Jerry Jones but it does make you think.

http://www.dallascow...7-eaef8eec8d23.


LOL - Mickey is a paid shill. Plus, the results on the field each year let us know exactly what goes on in Valley Ranch. The old saying of walking like a duck describes this situation perfectly. Most of us are intelligent enough to observe how Jerry Jones manages a team during the cap era versus how successful franchises go about things. We then note what Jerry does, and continues to do that other, more successful franchises of the salary cap era don't do. Thus, we get a very clear picture of what goes on at Valley Ranch, and we are dead on balls accurate. The treading water at .500 record dating back to 1996 plus the admission by Jones himself that he would have been fired by any other owner for his GM failings while then refusing to retire are a dead giveaway as are the rap commercials and "glory hole" comments.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:18 PM

Sorry didn't mean to sound disrespectful - thanks for the break down. I see what you are getting at...D


No disrespect taken at all Don. I do appreciate the apology.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

I disagree that EVERYONE sucks, but I DO agree that it's just more noise. It's amazing how frantic the media is for something or ANYTHING to feed the voracious appetite of the huddled masses.


True. "EVERYONE" is over the top. Obviously not everyone associated with the team sucks.

Just hyperbole on my part. Thanks.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:23 PM

Anyways, the point is he intentionally gives away as little possible information to the public as he can get away with and still be adhering to league policy. I'm glad he does it that way and I understand the logic behind it.


what does that accomplish when you got the GM'er and owner blabbing to anyone with a microphone? If anything it creates more speculation. It's not like it hasn't happened before, The GM'er had Wades legs cut before he was even hired.